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	<description>London 2012 Olympics, Orienteering, Cycling &#38; the Outdoors</description>
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		<title>Comment on Athlete Stats for UK Orienteers by David Currie</title>
		<link>http://blog.oobrien.com/2012/02/05/athlete-stats-for-uk-orienteers/#comment-8308</link>
		<dc:creator>David Currie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff. I started out by being pretty depressed at apparently only having been to 9 events in 2011 and actually only having finished 7 of them then I read the part about Level D events. With kids in tow there&#039;s where we spend most of our time these days... Perhaps I should set up an orienteering club for families. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff. I started out by being pretty depressed at apparently only having been to 9 events in 2011 and actually only having finished 7 of them then I read the part about Level D events. With kids in tow there&#8217;s where we spend most of our time these days&#8230; Perhaps I should set up an orienteering club for families. <img src='http://blog.oobrien.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Manifesto for a New Type of Orienteering Club by Oliver O`Brien</title>
		<link>http://blog.oobrien.com/2012/02/01/manifesto-for-a-new-orienteering-club/#comment-8231</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver O`Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James - thanks, these are all good counterpoints. I wasn&#039;t aware of the restrictions for creating a new club. I think such a club would probably be incubated by another club initially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8211; thanks, these are all good counterpoints. I wasn&#8217;t aware of the restrictions for creating a new club. I think such a club would probably be incubated by another club initially.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Manifesto for a New Type of Orienteering Club by Oliver O`Brien</title>
		<link>http://blog.oobrien.com/2012/02/01/manifesto-for-a-new-orienteering-club/#comment-8230</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver O`Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - there are too many orienteering events for the number of people in the sport in the UK. We need to grow participants, not events. 

I also think that if a club&#039;s primary aim is staging events rather than developing the members of the club, then it is alienating a very sizeable potential  membership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; there are too many orienteering events for the number of people in the sport in the UK. We need to grow participants, not events. </p>
<p>I also think that if a club&#8217;s primary aim is staging events rather than developing the members of the club, then it is alienating a very sizeable potential  membership.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Manifesto for a New Type of Orienteering Club by James Cunnane</title>
		<link>http://blog.oobrien.com/2012/02/01/manifesto-for-a-new-orienteering-club/#comment-8211</link>
		<dc:creator>James Cunnane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good pitch, as far as it goes; the upside is as you describe.  

Downside: I suspect that others might claim you are cherry-picking and not cultivating (&quot;parasite&quot;), or that you are diverting effort from more profitable activity (&quot;opportunity cost&quot;).  

Mitigation: You will need to make it clear that all relevant local clubs have declined to provide what you propose (&quot;new development&quot;), and persuade them that the new club will act as a feeder, or at least will not interfere with their patch (&quot;both, not either/or&quot;).

Practicalities: may be difficult.  Putting on events (and perhaps even informal training) requires third-party insurance.  Affiliiating to BO as a club would require getting Regional approval for your constitution - so you need to remain on good terms with club / regional reps.

Potential allies: Perhaps worth discussing with Ed N or Richard B in their roles as Development Manager and Participation Manager (South). The Development Committee meeting of October 2011 discussed marketing to target groups - perhaps you could spin this manifesto as a proposal for practical experiment and an opportunity for learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good pitch, as far as it goes; the upside is as you describe.  </p>
<p>Downside: I suspect that others might claim you are cherry-picking and not cultivating (&#8220;parasite&#8221;), or that you are diverting effort from more profitable activity (&#8220;opportunity cost&#8221;).  </p>
<p>Mitigation: You will need to make it clear that all relevant local clubs have declined to provide what you propose (&#8220;new development&#8221;), and persuade them that the new club will act as a feeder, or at least will not interfere with their patch (&#8220;both, not either/or&#8221;).</p>
<p>Practicalities: may be difficult.  Putting on events (and perhaps even informal training) requires third-party insurance.  Affiliiating to BO as a club would require getting Regional approval for your constitution &#8211; so you need to remain on good terms with club / regional reps.</p>
<p>Potential allies: Perhaps worth discussing with Ed N or Richard B in their roles as Development Manager and Participation Manager (South). The Development Committee meeting of October 2011 discussed marketing to target groups &#8211; perhaps you could spin this manifesto as a proposal for practical experiment and an opportunity for learning.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Manifesto for a New Type of Orienteering Club by David Currie</title>
		<link>http://blog.oobrien.com/2012/02/01/manifesto-for-a-new-orienteering-club/#comment-8170</link>
		<dc:creator>David Currie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it should be &quot;OCD4OOB&quot;?! Orienteering Club Designed For Ollie O&#039;Brien! I suspect the last clause of your opening paragraph would quickly rub you up the wrong way against the orienteering establishment. Where would we be if all clubs opted out of putting on events? Or would you argue that some people enjoy putting events on and others don&#039;t and this club would be for the latter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it should be &#8220;OCD4OOB&#8221;?! Orienteering Club Designed For Ollie O&#8217;Brien! I suspect the last clause of your opening paragraph would quickly rub you up the wrong way against the orienteering establishment. Where would we be if all clubs opted out of putting on events? Or would you argue that some people enjoy putting events on and others don&#8217;t and this club would be for the latter?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The State of British Orienteering, in Wordles by Oliver O`Brien</title>
		<link>http://blog.oobrien.com/2012/01/25/the-state-of-british-orienteering-in-wordles/#comment-7922</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver O`Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - understood. The Wordles are therefore most useful for showing the relative differences between clubs (or regions) rather than absolute figures. An implicit (and probably flawed) assumption is that the proportion of Level D events put on by clubs, and not uploaded, is approximately equal across the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; understood. The Wordles are therefore most useful for showing the relative differences between clubs (or regions) rather than absolute figures. An implicit (and probably flawed) assumption is that the proportion of Level D events put on by clubs, and not uploaded, is approximately equal across the country.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The State of British Orienteering, in Wordles by Steve</title>
		<link>http://blog.oobrien.com/2012/01/25/the-state-of-british-orienteering-in-wordles/#comment-7886</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These images are very useful but not fully informative. Using the BOF results database does not show the full picture of events run, only those where results are uploaded to BOF. Until the introduction of the new Incentive Schemes (and likley to continue) most Level D events are not shown on the BOF results database.

Over the same period Level D events which are most likely not included in the above Wordles make up 54% of our event structure and 56% of our participation. So the illustrations only relate to less than half of Orienteering activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These images are very useful but not fully informative. Using the BOF results database does not show the full picture of events run, only those where results are uploaded to BOF. Until the introduction of the new Incentive Schemes (and likley to continue) most Level D events are not shown on the BOF results database.</p>
<p>Over the same period Level D events which are most likely not included in the above Wordles make up 54% of our event structure and 56% of our participation. So the illustrations only relate to less than half of Orienteering activity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on OpenOrienteeringMap by Oliver O`Brien</title>
		<link>http://blog.oobrien.com/oom/#comment-6401</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver O`Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henrik - not currently but will look into it.
Srinivas - Orienteering maps do not show street names. The context layer is just intended to help you line up the orienteering map online to specific streets, before producing the PDF of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henrik &#8211; not currently but will look into it.<br />
Srinivas &#8211; Orienteering maps do not show street names. The context layer is just intended to help you line up the orienteering map online to specific streets, before producing the PDF of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on OpenOrienteeringMap by Srinivas</title>
		<link>http://blog.oobrien.com/oom/#comment-6288</link>
		<dc:creator>Srinivas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 05:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the labels for city/street names are not displaying in PDF when i do create PDF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the labels for city/street names are not displaying in PDF when i do create PDF</p>
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		<title>Comment on OpenOrienteeringMap by Henrik</title>
		<link>http://blog.oobrien.com/oom/#comment-5160</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much! I will definitely use this for some trainings with my club!

I see that power=minor_line is not rendered right now, maybe it could be rendered in the same way as power=line?

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much! I will definitely use this for some trainings with my club!</p>
<p>I see that power=minor_line is not rendered right now, maybe it could be rendered in the same way as power=line?</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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